Remembrance Day Mossy

Tuesday, May 30, 2006 comments 4 comments links to this post

Yesterday was Remembrance Day in the United States. It is a day to remember those that died fighting for the freedom of the U.S. people.

I'm not great on politics and can't spout out facts about this and that with regards to the U.S. history.

But I was looking at this. This is the remembrance chart. Apart from the fact that it's simply a list of numbers. These people are not numbers, not just another statistic, they are a father, son, brother, sister, mother, daughter and so on.

What strikes me, is these people died for the freedom of American people. Yet the most of them died elsewhere. Not protecting the U.S. soil, but on the other side of the world invading other soil, killing civilians and soldiers in other countries. Take Korea and Vietnam as an example of that. Sure, for some political reason they were/are protecting the U.S. but I don't get it.

And now, in Iraq, Thousands of soldiers have died "Liberating Iraq". Many more tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians have died in this time. How is killing more than 30,000 of the population of the country liberating it?

Right, I could possibly get slayed for this post. But these are just my opinions from a non-political person.

Here's a comparison. We had a war. It was around 1916. It was in our country, it was to get another country the fuck out! People died, and I can see that they died for our freedom, even though we still don't have all our country back.

4 comments so far

Blogger fuzzbrian 30/5/06 11:54 AM

and the black and tans were installed in Ireland to "protect the stability of the kingdom".



i've talked to british people who still believe that the Irish people were completely wrong to have done what they did, particularly in the rising.


Because when you're imperial wankers, you think acting like imperial wankers is the honourable thing to do.

and no matter how "great" they think their empire was, it was still based on them taking over other people's countrys and treating them as second rate people in order to serve the imperial country.

which is exactly what's happening in Iraq.





not, like, that i give a shit or anything.  

Blogger Luke 31/5/06 10:54 AM

where do i start, oh mossy. you knew this was coming so here goes.

take a look at world war 1 & 2. hundreds of thousands of american men died liberating europe and the rest of the world. not only did they die for us, some 13 billion of US tax dollars then went towards rebuilding europe after ww2 through the marshall plan. and yes we did ask the usa for their help, begged.

now ww2 had two direct knock on wars which all stem from the cold war. the first the usa was involved in was korea which was a UN supported war. so why korea, well the japanese empire post ww2 controlled over a fifth of the globe and they were especially brutal and slaughter, raped and killed millions of civilians throughout asia and they even attacked australia. they had particular hatred for korea and even changed its name from corea to korea (as k was after j in the alphabet). so after ww2, korea was split in two along the 38th Parallel, the south going to the usa and the north to russia. in 1950 the north invaded the south with support from russia. the un then moved to expel the invaders, and this was backed by the usa, as they were the only allies with an army in the 1950s. so to cut a long bloody war short they were kicked out of south korea and it is now a prosperous democracy and one of the richest countries in the world, the same can also be said for japan.

so now onto vietnam, after liberating vietnam from japen in ww2 the usa wanted vietnam to be an independent nation but france the old colony power wanted it back. anyway france got whipped by the northern communist in an eight year war and pulled out. so that's when the usa entered. at the time the usa thought this was right as it would hold off the spread of communism in asia. this turned out to be untrue.

anyway what i'm getting at is that everything is intertwined and a war doesn't happen in isolation. over the next few decades we will see the usa position itself to ensure it has access to oil as it's core necessity in any war.  

Anonymous bitzi 1/6/06 12:14 PM

BORING!!  

Blogger Lucy 3/6/06 4:38 PM

You and your thinking about stuff. That'll get you in trouble one of these days.  

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